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[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m coreyr: q[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m w/ {} if theres no _ at all, then it defaults to the current ns right?[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m yeah[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m this right? {foo_bar_baz} => <a href="show.php?ns=foo_bar&name=baz">baz</a>[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m yep[0m
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[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m now, we limit the chars in {} to [-a-z0-9_ ] right?[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m hmm[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m sounds good for me[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m we dont have to[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m i like limiting the letting ggo[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m then[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m i dont know about php, but perl has a couple escape routines[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m hmm[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m but[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m on the ever so delightful other hand[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m i think thats fine and if anyone wants more chars, they can ask[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m if we do limit to [-a-z0-9_ ] then[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m to "escape" the {}[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m iow let {}'s go thru untouched[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m all ppl have to do is not match {[-a-z0-9_ ][0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m easily done w/ {\[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m btw, we could allow '.' also[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m i dunt understand[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m oh you mean allowing users to escape[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m if we base what we allow on what doesnt get escaped when put in urls[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m then we can also allow '.'[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m oh[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m n/m the user escape thing right now[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m ok[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m we'll deal w/ it ltr[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m brb[0m
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[1;34m<[0mwater[1;34m>[0m anyway, i need sleep[0m
[1;34m<[0mwater[1;34m>[0m any news?[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m no[0m
[1;34m<[0mwater[1;34m>[0m k[0m
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[1;34m<[0msmklsmkl[1;34m>[0m hey Fare. will you join #ocaml?[0m
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[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m eihrul: do u have info on nightshade?[0m
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[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m eh?[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m abi: nightshade?[0m
[1;34m<[0mabi[1;34m>[0m nightshade is a microkernel[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m u entered that[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m oh, that was a joke :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m jokes are noise[0m
[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m ;)[0m
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[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m abi: davinci is a graph visualization system at http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/daVinci/[0m
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[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m hcf: is it free?[0m
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[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m look[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m gah[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m gah, its free beer[0m
[1;34m<[0mFare[1;34m>[0m kuk[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m a common lisp graph visualization system would be nice... but alas, such beasts probably don't exist[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m eihrul: if you make it, they will come.[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m not enough time as of yet :)[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m maybe in the future[0m
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[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m how goes it with slate?[0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m er.. [0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m abi, slate?[0m
[1;34m<[0mabi[1;34m>[0m slate is a unifying/hybridizing of self/beta/lisp at http://www.tunes.org/~water/slate-home.html[0m
[1;34m<[0mwater[1;34m>[0m bbiaf[0m
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[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m I'm reading the slate tutorial now..[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m XeF4: underconstruction![0m
[1;34m<[0mwater[1;34m>[0m new or old? new is at diktuon.arrow.cx[0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m http://www.tunes.org/~water/slate-tutorial.html[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m http://diktuon.arrow.cx/show.php?ns=tutorial&name=intro[0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m fwiw, I'm looking at as an alternative to Pliant[0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m s/at/at it/[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m XeF4: well ask him questions.[0m
[1;34m<[0mwater[1;34m>[0m i'm not spending much time here today[0m
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[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m coreyr: after I read moe[0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m s/moe/more/[0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m and maybe even get some rest..[0m
[1;34m<[0mwater[1;34m>[0m too bad.... cya tomorrow[0m
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[1;34m<[0mhcf[1;34m>[0m abi: dx is IBM Visualization Data eXplorer, general-purpose software package for data visualization and analysis @ http://www.ibm.com/dx/[0m
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[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m eihrul: hi.[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m hey[0m
[1;30m* [1;33meihrul/#tunes [0mhas been looking at Dynamo as a model for the Slate compiler.[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m nifty.[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m hanging around you guys reminds me how much i don't know[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m it's a whole lot of fun. =)[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m yeah, dynamo is pretty nifty[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m washort: aint that the trust[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m s/trust/truth[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m stuff like this has convinced me i definitely need to take a course in compiler construction[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m gah[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m screw the course[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m just buy acdi[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m abi: acd&i?[0m
[1;34m<[0mabi[1;34m>[0m acd&i is Advanced Compiler Design & Implementation at http://www.mkp.com/books_catalog/catalog.asp?ISBN=1-55860-320-4[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m you're not going to get any instruction from any course as thorough as that book[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m hmm[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m that book is *awesome* :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m you're probably right.[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m i need an elective anyway... hmm[0m
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[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m a good follow up is wolfe's book on optimizing for parallel computers[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m heh.[0m
[1;30m* [1;33mwashort/#tunes [0mfaces the dilemma of being an undergrad and only being interested in graduate-level topics[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m well, hey, i'm not even an undergrad yet! :)[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m so it's not going to be any easier for me[0m
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[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m i just have to hope that they let me out of freshmen C++ courses...[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m eihrul: heh, you're not? how old are you? =)[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m eihrul: ack, ack, ack[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m barely old enough to drink alcohol :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m eihrul: heh. same here[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m wait. 'drink'? is there a law against drinking it? i just thought it was aganst buying it. :)[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m ah, well, yeah... but you have to acquire it somehow :P[0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m eihrul: homebrew[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m older friends. :)[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m XeF4: i have better things to do :P[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m eihrul: haha, same here =)[0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m eihrul: or go to a country where you are old enough to buy alcohol [0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m eh, that would require leaving the house, fuck that[0m
[1;34m<[0mXeF4[1;34m>[0m ;)[0m
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[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m rats. uni library does not have acd&i[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m is it networked with other libs?[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m my universities is with the whole state system, so i can get just about any book[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m hmm[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m probably.[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m hmm[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m maybe there's a copy in Huntsville...[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m where are you at?[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m i'm going to Auburn University this fall, i live in Birmingham (AL)[0m
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[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m your closer to me than most of these people[0m
[1;34m<[0mcoreyr[1;34m>[0m (florida)[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m heh =)[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m hmm.[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m not there either[0m
[1;30m* [1;33mwashort/#tunes [0mtries to think of other places taht would have it[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m barnes and noble :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m maybe i can beg a professor's copy.[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m eihrul: you actually buy books before you've read them? how odd. :)[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m those two dudes have a lot of books[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m washort: well, acd&i is good :P[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m haha :)[0m
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[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m if you think otherwise, well, then i'm going to have to execute you...[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m eihrul: i can't think either way about it, i haven't read it :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m I440r: what's up?[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m washort  :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m updated my cvs for my forth yesterday,[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m will prolly do another update ina cpl of weeks[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m washort: its a chicken and the egg problem... you want to read the book to know to buy it... but you have to buy the book to read it :)[0m
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[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m you can never have too many books...[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m hm, true[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m enif if booksa re not a scarce resource[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m yes you can. i got so many im having problems reading it all[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m bat book[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m "even"[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m dns/bind[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m xlib programmers shit[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m hehe[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m do that and write forth and maintain irc/web/email server[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m argh hehe[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m the money to buy books is still scarce, so i have to maximize my benefit from the book-buying fund :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m AND do all that broin shit my boss wants me to do  :P[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m I440r: Heh. i've been dealing with the unpleasantnesses of DNS lately :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m haha im my own primary dns here, my isp is slave[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m and THEY get fscked up simetimes[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m only way to fix it is to force their bind to do an update by incrementing the serial and restarting[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m grrr[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m rite now im backing up a 20 gig drive thats 50% full hehe[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m i need to partition it[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m heh![0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m well, i haven't got as far as putting in slave DNS[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m debian mirror takes up SPACE man :P[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m i just got the primarmy set up yesterday[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m i dont know how to set up a slave,[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m i skipped that part[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m man im typing worse than usual tonight[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m and i cant do reverse either because my isp subnets cclass c[0m
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[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m eihrul: so what are you working on these days?[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m compilers :)[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m eihrul:  forht compilers or other ?[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m other[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m argh way to difficult :P[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m hehe[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m what kind ?[0m
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[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m a specific kind of compiler[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m hehe to compile what specifically ?[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m stuff[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m i need a stuff compiler[0m
[1;34m<[0mI440r[1;34m>[0m ive got alot of uncompiled stuff here[0m
[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m eihrul: slate? or other?[0m
[1;34m<[0meihrul[1;34m>[0m no comment[0m
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[1;34m<[0mwashort[1;34m>[0m heh.[0m
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