IRC log started Sun Dec 12 00:00:01 1999 [msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.1212 -:- SignOff td: #TUNES (td has no reason) -:- SignOff lispbliss: #TUNES () -:- SignOff Downix: #TUNES ([BX] OH SHIT!\13) -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- SignOff zarq: #TUNES (Ping timeout for zarq[10dyn76.delft.casema.net]) -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.105.99] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES (Ping timeout for mibin[62.11.105.99]) * Fufie/#tunes yawns -:- zarq [zarq@10dyn101.delft.casema.net] has joined #tunes * zarq/#tunes is back from being away: trug -:- SignOff air: #TUNES (BRiX [http://www.qzx.com/brix] :: sleep) -:- smoke [smoke@15dyn118.delft.casema.net] has joined #tunes * Fufie/#tunes yawns (again) g'day 05:10am good morning 05:20am lo smoke: subscribe through majordomo and file a bug report to tril about the web interface 05:50am fare; okay www.tunes.org starts at bespin? bug report sent. 06:10am "starts at bespin?"? 06:40am hmm.. coke and pizza for breakfast isn't that bad if you think gastric troubles will keep you awake, indeed 07:00am I ate too much lobster and fish yesterday so I have to eat something slightly more geeky to get in touch with myself again :) eat your thumb is that geeky? i tried lynx www.tunes.org ten times and i'm _sure_ it popped up a bespin page the first time try a newer lynx heh :) it's the latest devel lynx well.. my netscrape shows the right page 07:10am smoke: very old lynx? lynx shows the right page most of the time, but i'm /sure/ it showed me a bespin page maybe the server was down/misconfigured or you used a bizarre proxy 07:20am probably -:- AlonzoTG [Alonzo@207-172-184-119.s119.tnt6.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us728.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff AlonzoTG: #TUNES (Have Nice Day :)) 07:30am -:- Kaufmann [Kaufmann@dial710.infolink.com.br] has joined #tunes FOO! XYZZY! SNAZ! -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp70.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes hey, whaddayaknow, there are actually awake people here! (or something to that effect) yup GAKUK! So what's up? Beta 1 out yet? what is tril's email address? i tried tril@tunes.org smoke: dem@ ok 08:00am He's a David -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.102.166] has joined #tunes 08:10am tam tam David? Fufie: you into rap? 08:20am David Manifold, isn't it? not really.. kauf: yes 08:30am -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES ([x]chat) THIS PAGE IS PROVIDED _AS IS_, WITHOUT WARRANTY, INCLUDING WITHOUT WARRANTY OF FITNESS TO ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR WARRANTY OF HAVING A MEANING IN ANY PARTICULAR LANGUAGE. See you all later, people * eihrul/#tunes nods. as it should be ANY INTERPRETATION OF PROVIDED GLYPHS IN LEFT TO THE ENTIRE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE READER'S TWISTED MIND. -:- SignOff Kaufmann: #TUNES (Kaufmann's First Law: All subsequent laws are true. Kaufmann's Second Law: All preceding laws are false.) 09:30am -:- water [water@tnt-9-73.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes hoy water hey i was really sick all day yesterday some flu 10:00am well, i've been reading quite a few books this month mostly about natural language, but also a few about some new theories in math e.g. "hyperset" theory, where sets are considered which can refer to themselves and the natural language books had a lot to discuss about modalities and model theory and ontologies so, the point where i'm at right now is to pick a set of well-defined primitives that will support my notions of graph and ontology and that is the hardest part, no? 10:10am hmm well, because there are so many methods to choose from, yes 10:20am -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.105.37] has joined #tunes hey mibin heyya water =) wellcome back 10:40am reboot... brb -:- SignOff water: #TUNES (Ping timeout for water[tnt-9-73.tscnet.net]) 11:00am -:- Downix [down@d-gnaps-88.ici.net] has joined #tunes morning 'evening downix morning ok morning downix -:- water [water@tnt-10-128.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes works 11:10am so what's up today? -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) * water/#tunes is getting over a flu 11:20am -:- SignOff water: #TUNES (Read error to water[tnt-10-128.tscnet.net]: Connection reset by peer) -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES (Ping timeout for mibin[62.11.105.37]) -:- carlito [sabanmr@137.28.109.134] has joined #tunes abi: seen _ruiner_ _ruiner_ was last seen on IRC 1 days, 16 hours, 56 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying: bbl [Fri Dec 10 19:14:55 1999] -:- water [water@tnt-9-154.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes 12:20pm -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.105.241] has joined #tunes -:- air [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes back -:- Tril [dem@dialup21.nas.com] has joined #tunes tril! water! what's up? i bought a new computer k what kind? er... brb must reboot celeron433 12:40pm (installing device drivers for win98) -:- SignOff water: #TUNES (The Tao went that way!) ok * Downix/#tunes doesn't criticize for taste, x86 is the most common after all in the desktop what do you prefer Mac or mainframes then I prefer MIPS or Amiga's myself well, I can't afford an SGI don't have to MIPS are cheap CPU's ya buy an n64 :) As long as software is not free, we'll have hardware compatibility, hence bad, expensive, hardware that has decades-long obsolete design. -- Faré * Fare/#Tunes is in quote mode buy an N64 with a few "unofficial" add ons availible in Japan, ya got a complete computer I bought this comp to play diablo2, so it would be pointless to get some other arch there's a keyboard, hard-drive and even a printer availible for N64 >>> Tril [dem@dialup21.nas.com] requested PING 944834214 653791 from #tunes * Downix/#tunes shrugs Downix: what about a 128meg module? air: N64 uses stock RAMBUS ram, just grab a 128-meg RIMM and drop it in Downix: why not be PS2 or USB compatible for keyboards? Fare: PSX2 isn't availible yet I'd note. Fare: It would be like me saying "grab an Eddas", since my own design is not availible yet. 8) Downix: PS2 != PSX2 Downix: i dont think he was talking about psx2 PSX2 will be nice, and I want to blow it away Fare: OIC. but last I knew PS2 and USB were not avail for N64 air: I see what he ment now well..i'll be back later. bye -:- SignOff Tril: #TUNES (Tril has no reason) Fare: Pity that Acer stopped making their MIPS workstations ya bu nintendo should have used one of those so u dont have to buy a proprietary keyboard air: Agreed. But Nintendo WANTS poeople to buy their proprietary equiptment they could have still made an official n64 keyboard PS2 is the kind of keyboard plug you have on a PC (MiniDin6?) 12:50pm They did, it's in Japan Fare: I know, I use an AT plug myself AT motherboards are no longer manufactured (or keyboards, for that matter) Fare: yes they are Not true, I bought one the other day mobo and keyboard baby-AT, but still an AT -:- water [water@tnt-10-78.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes * Downix/#tunes sighs ack! Decisions, decisions where'd tril go? He left * water/#tunes sighs Downix: fantastic. They are quite difficult to find in France. 01:00pm -:- Connection closed from irc.us.openprojects.net: Success -:- Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: For more information about BitchX type /about -:- Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES -:- Your host is devlin.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) -:- This server was cobbled together Wed Apr 28 1999 at 12 02:19 EDT -:- devlin.openprojects.net u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) dioswkfcg biklmnopstv -:- [local users on irc(42)] 6% -:- [global users on irc(296)] 45% -:- [invisible users on irc(363)] 55% -:- [ircops on irc(19)] 3% -:- [total users on irc(659)] -:- [unknown connections(0)] -:- [total servers on irc(31)] (avg. 21 users per server) -:- [total channels created(201)] (avg. 3 users per channel) !devlin.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 68 (64 clients) !devlin.openprojects.net Welcome to Open Projects! You are on 2 ca 1(2) ft 14(14) tr. -:- Mode change [+f] for user TUNES -:- Mode change [+iws] for user TUNES -:- JOIN activated by "TUNES #tunes tunes@bespin.dhs.org " -:- TUNES [tunes@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- Topic for #TUNES: http://tunes.org/ -:- topic set by ChanServ [Sat Dec 11 17:52:19 1999] -:- [Users(#tunes:11)] [ TUNES ] [ hcf ] [ AlonzoTG ] [ mibin ] [ water ] [ air ] [ eihrul ] [ zarq ] [ Fufie ] [ Fare ] [ smkl ] -:- Channel #tunes was created at Sun Feb 28 08:48:06 1999 -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Join to #tunes was synced in 6.848 secs!! -:- Mode change [-s] for user TUNES -:- binEng [bineng@e161.ryd.student.liu.se] has joined #tunes -:- pyro [tcn@cci-209150250113.clarityconnect.net] has joined #tunes hey hi anyone know what's up with this spam from inexchange.net? I got 5 copies of it I haven't been spammed in months dunno.. I got two -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES (Read error to mibin[62.11.104.79]: EOF from client) pyro! the tunes lists have been spammed! :( :( like I say on my web page.. I will get them! once for @tunes.org, once for @bespin.dhs.org strangely they missed tcn@tunes.org (so far) but they got tcn@clarityconnect.com 04:00pm you're tcn? yeah there's a lot I don't know about.. why can't ppl just stick to *one* nick? -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.104.79] has joined #tunes I dunno.. but it says I'm tcn when I join and in whois heh -:- abi [nef@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes oops, I didn't mean to put a / at the end -:- Fare is now known as FareWell bE: sometimes the nick is taken -:- hcf has changed the topic on channel #tunes to: Free Reflective Computing System bE: sometimes your personality has several facets -:- FareWell is now known as BillGates :P eek * binEng/#tunes smashes BillGates in the head with a vase pyro: still doesn't work, I think -:- BillGates is now known as Fare Fare: btw, thx for the reflection review update pyro: How did TAOCP inspire you for Retro? om I told this guy that if he was going to have me write HIS business plan that I wanted in for 20% water: I had a really bad review on comp.compilers and decided to improve on the previous page He told me that he would give me stock options. =P looser he just doesn't get it! 04:10pm -:- mibin is now known as ObeeOne atg: how would you know what he's making? he is starting a company. ObeeOne: AOCP is a good reference for OS-writing.. for all those data structures and algorithms sure. Mind that in some cases, better structures/algorithms were found for persistent data structures, particularly see Chris Okasaki's recent book. * binEng/#tunes waves to pyro; here I am! hey.. I typed be: and it came out as obeeone.. what the fuck? pyro: please have your code mirrored daily (or at least everytime you log into the net) to bespin Fare: Won't Knuth update that? Fare: I don't login much pyro: heh bE: has he got time or will to? pyro: that's one more reason to "Model-Integrated Computing Environment" water: did you read it? is it worth reading? why have i not stumbled onto that before? Fare: Prolly not, but he's still working on the older books yeah, and it has a Multigraph model for building apps * water/#tunes adds this to his ever-enlarging list of references when I need the latest & greatest, then I'll worry about new algorithms. Meantime I'm working on the basics 04:20pm in every box of xmass lights there exists: a gremlin. -:- SignOff pyro: #TUNES (back to cooking) jdl should read about this eek... UML UML? ouch. Where? -:- ObeeOne [mibin@62.11.104.79] has left #tunes [] at the bottom of the page undeer 1999 FY activities 04:30pm -:- SignOff AlonzoTG: #TUNES (Have Nice Day :)) ouch i'm mostly interested in that multigraph model -:- Downix [down@d-gnaps-284.ici.net] has joined #tunes 04:40pm -:- SignOff binEng: #TUNES (bye) well, i must rest... this flu is really getting to me again bye -:- water [water@tnt-10-10.tscnet.net] has left #tunes [] 05:00pm -:- _ruiner_ [blah@ppp014.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (Leaving) so what's up? the sky the expectations sounds normal 05:40pm Will tunes be able to run C code? bad question... just popped into my head well, push it back and lock it up with a key Hey, it's an honest question better questions: "Will tunes be?" Downix: if Tunes is, it might. Downix: I guess the question has been answered in the mailing-list, long ago Fare: I thought of a way to make it work (and/or in the pages) * Downix/#tunes nods, I'll look it over (and/or in my posts on the lispos mailing-list) ok ok, time for dinner * Downix/#tunes waves -:- SignOff Downix: #TUNES (BitchX: the NEW form of birth control!) 05:50pm -:- lispbliss [lispbliss@cont01p07.ont.micron.net] has joined #tunes -:- Downix [down@d-gnaps-205.ici.net] has joined #tunes * Fare/#Tunes goto 3053 hey 06:10pm -:- SignOff Downix: #TUNES ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport) -:- _ruiner_ [DIY@ppp270.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes -:- yoo [ultima@user-38lc624.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #Tunes hmm wow making a boomerang is -hard- <_ruiner_> go buy a nerf -hah- exams blow =( 07:10pm -:- SignOff lispbliss: #TUNES (Ping timeout for lispbliss[cont01p07.ont.micron.net]) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us1036.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff yoo: #TUNES (Ping timeout for yoo[user-38lc624.dialup.mindspring.com]) -:- yoo [ultima@user-38lc6bl.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #Tunes -:- SignOff yoo: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- lispbliss [lispbliss@cont01p86.ont.micron.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (Ping timeout for _ruiner_[ppp270.wi.centurytel.net]) -:- NetSplit: lucas.openprojects.net split from irc.linux.com [09:50pm] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [lucas.openprojects.net] -:- Netjoined: lucas.openprojects.net irc.linux.com -:- air [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes -:- lar1 [LarMan@1Cust103.tnt31.sfo3.da.uu.net] has joined #tunes abi: seen water? water was last seen on IRC 5 hours, 26 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: bye [Sun Dec 12 16:54:24 1999] 10:30pm -:- lispbliss [lispbliss@cont01p86.ont.micron.net] has left #tunes [window] -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us638.javanet.com] has joined #tunes [msg(TUNES)] newlog 1999.1213 IRC log ended Mon Dec 13 00:00:00 1999