IRC log started Wed Dec 1 00:00:00 1999 -:- _ruiner_ [DIY@ppp412.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes [msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.1201 -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (destroy what destroys you) * Fufie/#tunes yawns * zarq/#tunes is back from being away: party -:- smokie [tw026024@zaalf10.twi.tudelft.nl] has joined #Tunes hello 09:10am hi :) 09:20am -:- AlonzoTG [Alonzo@216-164-128-175.s175.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff smokie: #TUNES (woei) -:- smoke [smoke@15dyn64.delft.casema.net] has joined #tunes -:- _ruiner_ [DIY@ppp145.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes -:- NetSplit: fontana.openprojects.net split from tolkien.openprojects.net [10:17am] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [fontana.openprojects.net] -:- Netjoined: fontana.openprojects.net tolkien.openprojects.net -:- smoke [smoke@15dyn64.delft.casema.net] has joined #tunes -:- NetSplit: fontana.openprojects.net split from verne.openprojects.net [10:22am] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [fontana.openprojects.net] -:- Netjoined: fontana.openprojects.net verne.openprojects.net -:- smoke [smoke@15dyn64.delft.casema.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (destroy what destroys you) lo good morning good night 11:00am long day.. but I managed to move my language-related project to bespin :) 11:10am * zarq/#tunes is away: weg -:- _ruiner_ [blah@ppp442.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes >>> AlonzoTG [Alonzo@216-164-128-175.s175.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com] requested PING 944062383 from #tunes -:- SignOff AlonzoTG: #TUNES (Ping timeout for AlonzoTG[216-164-128-175.s175.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com]) -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- _ruiner_ [blah@ppp058.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp55.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes <_ruiner_> greetings eihrul gakuks <_ruiner_> yeah 01:40pm -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.103.84] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES (Ping timeout for mibin[62.11.103.84]) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us1019.javanet.com] has joined #tunes * Fufie/#tunes yaaawwwns -:- AlonzoTG [Alonzo@209-122-248-215.s469.tnt8.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.103.84] has joined #tunes abi, perl? rumour has it perl is Practical Extraction and Report Language (or Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister). http://www.perl.org/, http://www.perl.com/ 03:00pm -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES (Ping timeout for mibin[62.11.103.84]) -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.103.84] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES (Ping timeout for mibin[62.11.103.84]) -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.103.84] has joined #tunes -:- Kaufmann [Kaufmann@200.224.105.147] has joined #tunes Shalom! So I'm finally at a cool place * Kaufmann/#tunes is now officially a researcher at the Institute for Pure and Applied Mathematics, Rio de Janeiro. (applause, anyone?) congrats :) * Kaufmann/#tunes bows It's not like I'm getting the big bucks or anything, but it's a great place to be... plus, kaufmann@impa.br has a respectable ring to it -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES (Ping timeout for mibin[62.11.103.84]) that's nice :) -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.103.84] has joined #tunes Also, when I go fill out some kind of form, "researcher in computer science" looks much better than "unemployed free-lance programmer/geek" * mibin/#tunes isnt even graduated in cs, nor a cs student, nor employed heh heh well, we're all stuffy academics here. except me now you can say "official geek (comp.sci research)" Shall we have our tea? heh, official geek 03:50pm you can deny you're a geek a long time, but when you are a a grad student or above in comp.sci you're officially geek :) * eihrul/#tunes sighs. almost 8 years till i can say that om =\ -:- SignOff AlonzoTG: #TUNES (Ping timeout for AlonzoTG[209-122-248-215.s469.tnt8.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com]) also, now I have a good excuse for making my projects look incredibly weird to "regular" programmers' eyes. Y'know - eval-heavy "Perlmacs" (hey, eihrul! :]), genetic algorithms, SCID, AI-based database optimization, model-level reflective languages... now whenever anyone asks "why don't you just write it in C?" I can just shout "hey buddy, I happen to be involved in complex cutting-edge computer science research, so BACK OFF!" ... and thus concludes Movement #1 of today's Rant. heh Kaufmann: what does this piece of code does then: gets(in); len=strlen(in); out=malloc(len+1); for (c=0; c gaak waitasec, lemme rewrite that in Perl :) heh you can't rewrite that in perl mibin: sup-optimal 04:00pm mibin: cheaper to reverse in place :P heh because might backdoor your machine smkl, sure I can suppose you can do that in 2 characters of perl, no? :) mibin: (print (string-reverse (read-string in))) much prettier :) Fufie: string-reverse is cheating :P Bla it's just string-reverse tsc and it took me two minutes to figure it out... which is much too long while (<>) { @in = split; $len = length; for (0..$len-1) { $out[$len-1-$_] = $in[$c]; } } print join '', @in; is a rather literal translation a better one is while (<>) { print join '', reverse split '' } wait the first one is wrong -:- AlonzoTG [Alonzo@209-122-248-215.s469.tnt8.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes the second brace should be at the end of the code >>> Kaufmann [Kaufmann@200.224.105.147] requested PING 944093133 from #tunes mye one was readable, clear and elegant ;) * mibin/#tunes is lagging -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES ([x]chat) s/mye/my/ -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.103.84] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- SignOff Kaufmann: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Kaufmann[200.224.105.147]) -:- Kaufmann [Kaufmann@200.224.105.91] has joined #tunes God damn it. -:- NetSplit: king.openprojects.net split from sterling.openprojects.net [04:08pm] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [king.openprojects.net] -:- mibin [mibin@62.11.103.84] has joined #tunes sigh -:- Netjoined: king.openprojects.net sterling.openprojects.net -:- smkl [sami@glubimox.yok.utu.fi] has joined #tunes 04:10pm damn, server just stoned when i tried to paste my masterpiece heh, paste it now getLine >>= \a -> putStr $ foldl (flip (:)) [] a wow, exotic -:- SignOff Kaufmann: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Kaufmann[200.224.105.91]) haskell.... smkl: can you explain it? well, >>= is just a monadic combinator that combines the two computations getLine gets the string 'a', which is then reversed using list catamorphism with flipped cons (snoc), then putStr prints it s/^(.)?(.)?(.)?(.)?(.)?(.)?(.)?$/$7$6$5$4$3$2$1/ heh am i lagging >>> smkl [sami@glubimox.yok.utu.fi] requested PING 944094215 532149 from #tunes nope but to smoke i am are you sure smoke replies pings? 04:20pm * eihrul/#tunes needs to learn Haskell. Ping reply from smoke : 44.7 second(s) ok -:- _ruiner_ [blah@ppp165.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes hmm what is the url to the arrow's paper ? apt, arrow? abi, arrow? i think arrow is a homo-iconic information manipulation system intended to support programming and human languages in the way that Tunes should. at http://www.tunes.org/papers/Arrow/, http://www.tunes.org/~water/ tnx abi * smoke/#tunes just has a slow link (plus i'm coding) what are you coding? -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (Leaving) the slime vector part in crystal dreams ii 04:30pm * zarq/#tunes is back from being away: trug smkl: know of any full-length haskell manuals in digital media? :) -:- SignOff smoke: #TUNES (Read error to smoke[15dyn64.delft.casema.net]: Connection reset by peer) 04:50pm -:- SignOff mibin: #TUNES (Ping timeout for mibin[62.11.103.84]) -:- _ruiner_ [DIY@ppp080.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us100.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (destroy what destroys you) * zarq/#tunes is away: zzz -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us100.javanet.com]) -:- yoo [ultima@user-38lc6dl.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #Tunes -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us100.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES (Ping timeout for eihrul[usr5-ppp55.lvdi.net]) -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp87.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes -:- air [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes -:- Lu [none@HSE-Ottawa-ppp83319.sympatico.ca] has joined #tunes -:- Lu [none@HSE-Ottawa-ppp83319.sympatico.ca] has left #tunes [] -:- SignOff AlonzoTG: #TUNES (Have Nice Day :)) -:- _ruiner_ [DIY@ppp082.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff yoo: #TUNES (sn00ze.) -:- lar1 [LarMan@dialup-209.245.136.188.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #tunes Hey! hey 09:40pm -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (destroy what destroys you) -:- SignOff lar1: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us100.javanet.com]) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us100.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- SignOff air: #TUNES (BRiX [http://www.qzx.com/brix] :: sleep) [msg(TUNES)] newlog 1999.1202 IRC log ended Thu Dec 2 00:00:01 1999