IRC log started Tue Nov 2 00:00:02 1999 [msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.1102 -:- NetSplit: irc.linux.com split from forward.openprojects.net [12:17am] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [irc.linux.com] -:- Netjoined: irc.linux.com forward.openprojects.net -:- Tril [dem@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- ServerMode/#tunes [+o Tril] by asimov.openprojects.net -:- Closing Link: TUNES[bespin.dhs.org] by bear.openprojects.net (Ping timeout for TUNES[bespin.dhs.org]) -:- Connection closed from irc.us.openprojects.net: Success -:- Use /Server to connect to a server -:- Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: For more information about BitchX type /about -:- Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES (from king.openprojects.net) -:- Your host is king.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) (from king.openprojects.net) -:- This server was cobbled together Wed Apr 28 1999 at 12 02:19 EDT(from king.openprojects.net) -:- king.openprojects.net u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) dioswkfcg biklmnopstv -:- [local users on irc(25)] 5% -:- [global users on irc(210)] 45% -:- [invisible users on irc(254)] 55% -:- [ircops on irc(11)] 2% -:- [total users on irc(464)] -:- [unknown connections(0)] -:- [total servers on irc(30)] (avg. 15 users per server) -:- [total channels created(125)] (avg. 3 users per channel) !king.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 42 (41 clients) !king.openprojects.net Welcome to Open Projects! You are on 6 ca 1(2) ft 14(14). -:- Mode change [+f] for user TUNES -:- Mode change [+iws] for user TUNES -:- JOIN activated by "TUNES #tunes tunes@bespin.dhs.org " -:- TUNES [tunes@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- [Users(#tunes:4)] [ TUNES ] [ smkl ] [ abi ] [@Tril ] -:- Channel #tunes was created at Sun Feb 28 08:48:06 1999 -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Join to #tunes was synced in 6.693 secs!! -:- Mode change [-s] for user TUNES -:- argon [dholland@208.192.101.95] has joined #tunes * argon/#tunes looks around * argon/#tunes chuckles politely * argon/#tunes ducks out -:- argon [dholland@208.192.101.95] has left #tunes [] -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us914.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- Beholder [beholder@ppp-030.m2-1.sub.ican.net] has joined #tunes -:- Beholder [beholder@ppp-030.m2-1.sub.ican.net] has left #tunes [] -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us914.javanet.com]) -:- Kaufmann [Kaufmann@dial175.infolink.com.br] has joined #tunes -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us914.javanet.com] has joined #tunes hey 09:10am Anyone want to discuss online education? 09:20am -:- SignOff Kaufmann: #TUNES ("Jesus would make a good main character for a Seinfeld spinoff" - Amber) -:- Beholder [Beholder@ppp-034.m2-1.sub.ican.net] has joined #tunes hi beh Hey hcf, how are ya today? fine, u? Not too bad, helping binEng with some work on epmimistic storage system 10:00am So what's going on in Tunes lately? the arrow posts (mlist) otherwise little Any related discussion in the chan? some What's your take on it? how do u mean? I mean what do you think of the recent messages. Is arrows getting any simpler to you? sorry, I mean easier to understand. yeah but its still seems hopeless w/o knowing the foundational theory I tried to learn a bit about ontology theory, which isn't all that difficult, but how it could be used within a computer still eludes me 10:10am Maybe I'm still a little lost in it I'm sure when Brian finally comes up with a working prototype that everyone can use it'll be more relavent But I'm sure that's true with everyone's ideas here... 10:20am -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us914.javanet.com]) -:- hcf [nef@209.94.146.89] has joined #tunes !gatekiller:*! now !gatekiller:*! now checking for open wingates !gatekiller:*! now checking for open wingates -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- smkl_ [sami@glubimox.yok.utu.fi] has joined #tunes -:- NetSplit: bear.openprojects.net split from varley.openprojects.net [01:19pm] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [bear.openprojects.net] -:- smkl_ is now known as smkl -:- Closing Link: TUNES[bespin.dhs.org] by king.openprojects.net (Ping timeout for TUNES[bespin.dhs.org]) -:- Connection closed from irc.us.openprojects.net: Success -:- Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] -:- Unable to connect to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net: No route to host -:- Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: For more information about BitchX type /about -:- Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES (from adams.openprojects.net) -:- Your host is adams.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) (from adams.openprojects.net) -:- This server was cobbled together Wed Apr 28 1999 at 13 24:47 EDT(from adams.openprojects.net) -:- adams.openprojects.net u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) dioswkfcg biklmnopstv -:- [local users on irc(48)] 8% -:- [global users on irc(278)] 45% -:- [invisible users on irc(341)] 55% -:- [ircops on irc(15)] 2% -:- [total users on irc(619)] -:- [unknown connections(0)] -:- [total servers on irc(31)] (avg. 19 users per server) -:- [total channels created(147)] (avg. 4 users per channel) !adams.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 59 (58 clients) !adams.openprojects.net Welcome to Open Projects! You are on 6 ca 1(2) ft 14(14) tr. -:- Mode change [+f] for user TUNES -:- Mode change [+iws] for user TUNES -:- JOIN activated by "TUNES #tunes tunes@bespin.dhs.org " -:- TUNES [tunes@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- Topic for #TUNES: General TUNES thought, discussion and implementation, but mostly idleness -:- topic set by hcf [Sun Oct 31 17:39:11 1999] -:- [Users(#tunes:5)] [ TUNES ] [ smkl ] [ Beholder ] [@Tril ] [ abi ] -:- Channel #tunes was created at Sun Feb 28 08:48:06 1999 -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Join to #tunes was synced in 6.291 secs!! -:- Mode change [-s] for user TUNES -:- SignOff Beholder: #TUNES (:)) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us745.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp188.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes -:- carlito [sabanmr@137.28.109.85] has joined #tunes hey abi abi: seen ruiner ruiner was last seen on IRC 20 days, 4 hours, 17 minutes and 14 seconds ago, saying: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2002.html [Wed Oct 13 12:08:37 1999] 03:30pm -:- carlito [sabanmr@137.28.109.85] has left #tunes [] -:- Kaufmann [Kaufmann@dial650.infolink.com.br] has joined #tunes Shalom -:- SignOff Kaufmann: #TUNES (BLA) -:- Kaufmann [Kaufmann@dial650.infolink.com.br] has joined #tunes 04:10pm So I've finally found a practical use for my linked lists module >>> Kaufmann [Kaufmann@dial650.infolink.com.br] requested PING 941587973 from #tunes ... anyone? 04:20pm spew Simply by adding an apply method to the LList class, I already have the basics for a Lisp interpreter also, now I can say apply new LList \&print, reverse qw/there hey/; when I could have just said print "hey", "there"; -:- SignOff Kaufmann: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Kaufmann[dial650.infolink.com.br]) 04:30pm -:- Kaufmann [Kaufmann@dial499.infolink.com.br] has joined #tunes MAN, I hate this Anyway Simply by adding an apply method to the LList class, I already have the basics for a Lisp interpreter also, now I can say apply new LList \&print, reverse qw/there hey/; when I could have just said print "hey", "there"; So it's one step further in my quest for an idiom that is all obfuscation and no programming -:- Beholder [Beholder@ppp-034.m2-1.sub.ican.net] has joined #tunes hey beh like Perl? hey Haven't tried it yet, decided to learn Python instead ;) -:- _ruiner_ [DIY@ppp045.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes Good choice too, but I have more fun in Perl I'll have to look at it sometime (quoted) also, now I can say apply new LList \&print, reverse qw/there hey/; when I could have just said print "hey", "there"; -:- SignOff Beholder: #TUNES (:)) 04:40pm "I still think that anything [water] will accomplish with Arrow can be as easily done through incremental development starting from a fully reflective Lisp compiler (and guess what, just about everyone else that's involved in Tunes - including me - happen to be working on their own reflective Lisp compilers) " Anyway, I gotta go 04:50pm -:- SignOff Kaufmann: #TUNES (Now I'm here... now I'm not. Go figure.) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) !irq:*! if anyone is seeing flooders, /m irq (I already took care of 206.43.200.*) -:- air [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (destroy what destroys you) air: protection rings suck man 05:50pm heh 06:20pm -:- lar1 [LarMan@dialup-209.245.134.174.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #tunes Hey 06:50pm -:- SignOff lar1: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us335.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- td [x@1Cust36.tnt3.wilmington.nc.da.uu.net] has joined #tunes YES!!!!! i am typing shit in brix 10:00pm -:- lar1 [LarMan@dialup-209.245.141.55.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #tunes Hey hey good news Wha? double good news Sweet! i released a new version of bfe and BRiX again? You just keep cranking em' out (bfe) u can type in brix now Cool So is yer demo interactive? i added physical memory dumping support to bfe well u can type and it displays keys on the screen is that interactive enuf? :) 10:20pm I guess so I can't wait for the command prompt :) it has a command prompt it doesnt process anything u type tho go download it and try it out air: icuc (and if u didnt see it in the topic a while ago) http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~bickiia/logo-scheme/ hcf: What are those? lar1: those? air: will do as soon as I unhose libc hcf: icuc? well, icuc is In Case U Care hcf: Ohh :) I thouht it was I see you see lar1: it is sort of lar1: its, i'v seen, u may wanna see hah heh Whats the difference between elisp and lisp? dont have any use for a logo to scheme translator elisp is emacs lisp i believe Ah I don't like emacs hmm, is there a logo compiler that compiles directly to x86 machine code? I thought logo was interpeted? 10:30pm ya so :) BASIC is interpeted Logo is that language that has penup and pendown * lar1/#tunes still ins't convinced that logo does anything useful logo is wicked kewl BRB -- I hope... I am gonna take another wack at unhoseation of my libc -:- SignOff lar1: #TUNES (Leaving) logo 'pilers: ExperLogo and Object Logo, but alas both for the mac air: i'm searching for u hcf: thanks 10:40pm abi: rlogo is at http://www.embry.com/rLogo/ thanks oh crap, rlogo is written in hava er java heh, u have to download about 20 sources files (no package) and they are all missing abi: forget rlogo hcf: I forgot rlogo sometimes i dont look close enuf at things -:- lar1 [LarMan@dialup-209.245.139.64.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #tunes tho, i knew it wasnt ur answer Piece of crap piece of badness haha Kernel panic: Unable to mount root filesustem at 2:00 air: some logo poop @ ftp://cher.media.mit.edu/pub/logo/ and http://http.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/ 10:50pm lar1: what device did u tell it to mount root from? "/dev/fd0" And it was abooting and then said put in yer root disk and noone gets hurt So I did oh u just have a bad floppy or something Now I have to get _out_ of bed and _walk_ over to the disks! It said somting about msdos when it gave thte geometry of the drive Oh well, here goes again... -:- SignOff lar1: #TUNES (Leaving) ahhhh dog crap brix works in bochs but doesnt work on a real machine lol :P hmm, http://or.mime.univ-paris8.fr/~loscar/interests_eng.html 11:00pm -:- lar1 [LarMan@dialup-209.245.135.141.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #tunes You know what? THat was 100% badness Same message. I'll teache that kerel to panic... I'll teach the kernel a THING or two... muahahha! ok i have narrowed it down. its crashing when entering pmode BRiX is? ya it works in bochs tho I had metallica stuck in my head this morning Ever find it interesting that gas isn't a gas? ouch, i just snapped a floppy in half when removing it from the drive -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us335.javanet.com]) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us127.javanet.com] has joined #tunes 11:10pm Heh great, brix dies when it makes the jump to the 32bit code segment basic to logo translator in logo @ http://http.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/v2ch6/basic.html what can cause that A bad somthing GDT? Code alignment? i dont see any problem with the CS descriptor 11:20pm abi: TurboLogo is at http://or.mime.univ-paris8.fr/~loscar/Logo/ air: here? 11:30pm abi: qlogo is at http://yoko.rip.ens-cachan.fr:8080/~preda/qlogo.html ya air: opinion of qlogo? reading it now 11:40pm -:- SignOff td: #TUNES (Ping timeout for td[1Cust36.tnt3.wilmington.nc.da.uu.net]) damn -:- td [x@1Cust36.tnt3.wilmington.nc.da.uu.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff td: #TUNES (td has no reason) that freakin pig he tgz'd the code and didnt have it in a dir hehe now i have about 30 files in my home dir lol this is perfect other than the fact that he used absolutely no directories in the source code 11:50pm air: poop here may be helpful: http://sources.isc.org/dirlist.perl?dir=devel/lang/&tarball=logo/logo/ [msg(TUNES)] newlog 1999.1103 IRC log ended Wed Nov 3 00:00:00 1999