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18:12:00 <tcn> what?
18:12:05 <Tril> Don't IRC as root :)
18:12:09 <tcn> i know :)
18:12:30 <tcn> don't do anything as root :)
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18:13:52 <tcn> ok i'll add an alias to 'su tcn' for xchat :
18:16:27 <tcn> goddammit I hate X
18:16:49 <Tril> why's that
18:18:46 <tcn> trying to remember how to run X apps via su
18:18:56 <tcn> some .xauth thing
18:19:10 <Tril> I never learned xauth.  i just do 
18:19:13 <Tril> xhost +localhost
18:19:40 <Tril> and set DISPLAY=:0.0  in the other user's shell 
18:20:24 <tcn> thanks
18:20:36 <tcn> what shell do you use?
18:21:14 <Tril> bash
18:22:27 <tcn> hmm.. I guess it's .bashrc I want 
18:24:01 <tcn> cool, it works
18:27:52 <tcn> I guess I put '. .bashrc' in my .profile, eh?
18:27:58 <Tril> I do 
18:28:13 <Tril> make sure you put ~/.bashrc, sometimes you are not in ~ when running bash
18:28:17 <tcn> true
18:28:41 <tcn> do you put anything besides . .bashrc in .profile?
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18:29:10 <Tril> not currently
18:35:17 <tcn> v
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19:01:06 <Fare> qmail has a nice, clean design.
19:01:34 <Fare> I had problems with qmail 1.03 on Slowaris, tho: would randomly die (maybe from memory overflow of other processes?)
19:02:08 <Fare> despite its remarkable design (for a unix program), it isn't worth the trouble of not being free software
19:02:15 <Fare> I recommend postfix instead
19:02:57 <Fare> other people had problems with qmail serving mailing-lists behind a transparent sendmail proxy
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20:13:38 <eihrul> hey
20:19:08 <tcn> hey.. sup?
20:26:06 <eihrul> how goes retro?
20:27:03 <tcn> well.. i'm thinking about a game console version..
20:29:16 <eihrul> "game console" version?
20:32:11 <tcn> yeah, maybe a dreamcast or psx
20:33:40 <tcn> I'm also working on a unix/linux version
20:34:34 <tcn> also considering a windoze version, if I can figure it out..
20:37:07 <eihrul> PDA version would be niftier :)
20:37:24 <eihrul> retro would probably shine on them
20:37:24 <tcn> the dreamcast looks nice.. $150, 250mhz SH4 cpu which has 16-bit fixed length instructions
20:37:36 <tcn> yeah, sure thing
20:37:58 <eihrul> plus the hardware is a tad less convoluted
20:38:04 <tcn> i'm not into PDA's though.. but there is a PalmForth ...?
20:38:35 <eihrul> sure, but as an added bonus, you get free persistence :)
20:38:49 <eihrul> relatively simple hardware, good PC connectivity and such
20:38:54 <eihrul> what's not to like about the platform?
20:40:00 <tcn> hehe
20:40:41 <tcn> I *started* a TI-8x forth.. that is, 8-bit token threaded Z80 forth..
20:41:23 <tcn> hand-assembled and entered into a hex editor.. actually I think i'll do it on the PC and upload it, if I ever resume work.
20:45:34 <tcn> if you can deal with 4mhz and 28k, you can handle anything :)
21:51:48 <tcn> ugh.. i dunno about these game consoles
21:52:08 <tcn> too proprietary
21:56:28 <eihrul> i say go with iPaq Retro :)
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22:36:17 <tcn> with what?
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