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And it seems inhumane. 05:35:38 i even had to cancel all of my chiropractic appointments :( 05:36:03 *blink* 05:36:06 [QUIT] Geeky quit: brb, reloading 05:36:10 they're even threatening us with 24/7 working conditions 05:36:26 can they do that ? 05:36:34 of course they can 05:36:48 it's the nuclear navy 05:36:54 what about the laws about work environments ? 05:37:15 what about them? 05:37:21 they don't apply to you ? 05:37:24 this isn't legally work 05:37:26 or they don't exist in the us ? 05:37:35 it's military service 05:37:45 same deal over here. 05:39:57 anyway, i do db development and such at work 05:40:44 it's a complete stroke of luck to get to do that 05:41:00 but i get sick of programming 05:41:10 or even thinking about it 05:41:20 i'm just burnt out (still) 05:41:48 if this is just a phase, it's a really long one with no end in sight 05:42:08 well, there's only 19 months until i'm out of the navy 05:42:41 but even so, it's not like i'll have any friends left by that time, or anyone who gives a shit about me 05:44:10 which is probably my biggest problem... total lack of psychological reward 05:44:32 i had to ditch my family and join the military because of it 05:47:38 tmf: did you read my last post to tunes mlist? 05:49:59 hm he gets on irc and only one channel only to not pay attention to anything there 05:51:05 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o water 05:51:14 [KICK] goner was kicked by water (goner) 05:51:20 [KICK] I440r was kicked by water (I440r) 05:51:20 I440r joined #tunes 05:51:20 goner joined #tunes 05:51:29 [KICK] I440r was kicked by water (I440r) 05:51:30 I440r joined #tunes 05:51:30 [MODE] water set mode: +b *!*@purplecoder.com 05:51:51 [KICK] I440r was kicked by water (I440r) 05:51:59 [KICK] goner was kicked by water (goner) 05:52:00 [MODE] water set mode: +b *!*@10dyn154.delft.casema.net 05:52:06 [KICK] thomas was kicked by water (thomas) 05:52:23 [MODE] water set mode: -o water 05:53:56 thomas joined #tunes 05:54:06 so? 05:54:25 what's the big f deal, brian? 05:54:36 did you read my last mail or not? 05:54:45 TUNES 05:54:47 no, I was smoking - outside 05:54:50 that's the big f deal 05:55:07 just repeat, ok 05:55:27 ctrl-c ctrl-v! 05:55:51 http://www.tunes.org/~lar1/logs/tunes 05:56:28 i'll check that out then - please don't kick me in the mean time - I may reply 05:57:06 check what out? libra? 05:59:42 hm i'm so glad you're here so you can lurk and provide roughly 15 minute lag times for conversations 06:00:26 jesus, water. Are you having your period, or what? 06:00:36 heh 06:00:57 no, just wondering why the hell i exist 06:01:11 don't we all 06:01:21 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o water 06:02:14 so you're obviously not going to answer my question 06:02:22 or are you? 06:02:55 please restate it. I don't read minds over the net. 06:03:19 i'll check that out then - please don't kick me in the mean time - I may reply 06:03:19 check what out? libra? 06:03:45 no, why I got kicked, that's all 06:03:46 [MODE] water set mode: -b *!*@pool0*cvx19-bradley.earthlink.net 06:03:49 [MODE] water set mode: -b *!*@RAS*-p*.tlv.netvision.net.il 06:03:57 [MODE] water set mode: -b *!*_devil@*m4048-1.cle.infinet.com 06:04:16 i don't care if you check that out 06:04:28 i want to know if you'll look at libra 06:04:38 abi: libra 06:04:38 libra is a Lazy Interpreter of Binary Relational Algebra at http://www.cs.adelaide.edu.au/users/dwyer/TR95-10.html 06:05:01 i'll have a looksee, then 06:05:16 when you pay attention again in a half hour or so, let me know 06:05:34 shut up, man :) 06:05:41 [KICK] thomas was kicked by water (thomas) 06:09:10 thomas joined #tunes 06:09:25 just dropped by to say heil, water 06:09:28 [QUIT] thomas quit: Leaving 06:11:07 water reads some papers on partial-evaluation 06:11:43 for eihrul: http://www.dina.dk/~sestoft/pebook/pebook.html 06:15:06 and oh yes, for all the world to know: 06:15:49 i am a big fat lazy jerk, a socially-inept nerd, and do not deserve to call myself human 06:16:08 just to make it clear that i am aware of these things 06:27:44 [QUIT] eihrul quit: Read error to eihrul[usr5-ppp153.lvdi.net]: EOF from client 06:27:59 [MODE] water set mode: -o water 06:28:22 eihrul joined #tunes 06:30:21 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o water 06:30:27 [MODE] water set mode: -b *!*@purplecoder.com 06:30:34 [MODE] water set mode: -o water 06:30:56 I440r joined #tunes 06:34:41 i paid a guy $100 last night just to watch him con me 06:34:51 s/just/in order to/ 06:36:30 water: hadn't he already conned you when you paid him ? 06:36:47 no, i waited to pay him until the last minute 06:37:19 no, i don't care about money that much 06:37:19 water: ah. sounds like you need a serious break from everything if you can waste $100 on that 06:37:28 yep 06:37:38 that's what's been bugging me the most tonight 06:37:51 the need for a break ? 06:38:16 no, the fact that one isn't available 06:38:36 can you ask for a transfer ? 06:38:43 hahahahahaha 06:38:51 obviously not. 06:38:52 [QUIT] JALH quit: brb 06:39:07 i actually laughed out loud just now 06:39:19 glad I made you laugh :) 06:39:25 oh it wasn't you 06:39:28 (however bitterly.. :/) 06:39:31 it was the madness 06:41:09 the guy was such a nervous wreck doing it, and he totally screwed it up several times 06:42:20 i explicitly said at the end (before he was about to "get the merchandise for me") that even though i wasn't going to get anything out of it, it was still worth it 06:42:30 right to his face 06:43:04 may I ask exactly what it was he was trying to do ? 06:43:06 if i see him again, i think i'll mug him just for fun 06:43:14 heh 06:43:34 selling laptops from a business that just went bankrupt 06:43:57 how can one screw up selling a laptop ? 06:44:10 many ways 06:44:59 he had someone else in on it, but the interaction was totally wrong and unbelievable 06:45:06 either you're alluding terribly, or you're just your cryptic self. 06:45:23 i don't tell stories 06:45:33 hm maybe i should be more clear about that 06:45:39 I DON'T TELL STORIES 06:45:58 and i feel very very strongly about that, as well 06:47:50 I still find your documentary hard to decipher. 06:48:00 so what? 06:48:28 So I won't be asking any more about it. 06:48:37 i used to think that i liked writing creatively, but that i had a block of some kind, until i realized that i knew that it was evil 06:49:31 the block or writing creatively was evil ? 06:49:40 the latter 06:49:52 what's your basis for that claim ? 06:49:53 particularly story-telling 06:50:00 this also extends to telling jokes 06:50:28 you mean my axioms? my kernel assumptions? :) 06:50:40 if you have any.. 06:50:45 the model theory of my thinking? :) 06:51:58 i doubt my mind has the property that it "bases" its "decisions" on "principles" in any coherent way 06:52:28 no more than anyone else's mind can, apparently 06:52:57 so, the reason why jokes are supposedly evil is based wholly on a whim ? 06:53:37 heh as if you could say that any statement has a basis 06:55:29 I just define it so. 06:55:39 oh of course 06:56:11 and you are a positivistic individual, free of nonlinearities of causal relations of all theories, including those of quantum physics 06:57:16 and your definition is also reasoned with principles behind it (NOTE FOR THE CLUELESS: beware of the recursion here) 06:57:22 What I in fact am, and what I perceive me to be might be very different. 06:57:31 lol 06:58:04 how can you perceive if you "in fact" aren't? 06:58:39 this is philosophy for pre-schoolers you're suggesting 06:59:21 I'm not really interested in the philosophical just now. All I wanted to know was why you thought jokes were evil. 06:59:48 But apparently that wasn't a question with an answer. 06:59:52 "no philosophy" but you want to know about a moral statement? 07:00:12 you really are insulting me 07:00:20 I didn't think you could be. 07:00:39 you're right, i couldn't possibly "be" 07:01:01 implicit in that sentence was the "insulted", at the end. 07:01:24 Do we have to drag existentialism into every question on this channel ? 07:01:25 thanks for the info 07:01:35 we? 07:01:51 i'm doing the dragging, not you 07:02:49 and unless i can figure out how to get some kind of feedback from the universe, it will continue in some form or other 07:02:57 it's obviously impossible to get any way without trying to level with you, so the rest of us will have to as well. 07:03:14 then you have no imagination 07:03:28 if you're alluding to the fact that you get little feedback on slate, there are a lot of good reasons for it. 07:03:32 which is what *really* turns me off about most people 07:03:43 no, i mean f/b in general 07:04:41 probably because your corner of the universe is sparesly populated. (and I'm of course speaking metaphorically) 07:05:06 sparsely populated like deep space 07:05:49 must be a painful curse. 07:06:20 you know i have psoriasis right? 07:06:36 hadn't a clue 07:06:54 the skin rash covers about 30% of my body now 07:07:03 including my entire scalp 07:07:15 it hurts 100% of the time 07:07:24 and i snow like crazy 07:07:41 and of course there's no proper cure in sight ? 07:08:08 no, they just pump me up with medications and say "wait a decade or so" 07:08:48 hmm.. reminds me of Fufie. 07:09:07 but at least they know what ails you. they don't with me. 07:09:25 knowing doesn't help much 07:09:28 not that I want to enter a Contest of the most Defective. 07:09:56 [NICK] JALH changed nick to: Lord-JALH 07:09:59 no wonder you're so cranky. 07:10:04 besides, they've changed diagnoses every 2 years 07:10:12 and shy IRL 07:10:47 I've imagined you being very atypical irl. 07:10:49 it's hard to be forward when you have a layer of skin coming off of you onto your clothes all the time 07:11:08 must do wonders for your self-esteem.. 07:11:17 you think so? :) 07:11:52 ok subject shift 07:12:07 sure. pick a topic. 07:13:25 not a good time for me to pick a topic 07:13:41 eihrul: you there? 07:13:44 you're probably right 07:14:07 considering i was fighting back tears a minute ago :P 07:14:29 I'd hand you my sympaties, but I'm not sure if you'd accept. 07:14:38 save them 07:15:01 Will do. 07:15:46 am, was not 07:16:02 how's coding going? 07:16:16 still going 07:16:35 any new issues? or old issues that came back for more? 07:16:43 not yet 07:16:52 ok 07:17:29 i am closer now to knowing how to explain slate to newbies, but not yet by enough 07:18:03 I've asked before, and I'll probably keep on asking 'till I get an answer: how can I get my hands on enough concrete slate docs to help hacking the environment ? 07:18:20 [NICK] Lord-JALH changed nick to: JALH 07:18:58 ask eihrul or i 07:19:30 slate docs basically exist in our heads and get changed very rapidly 07:19:49 I feel like a burden when asking about the most trivial details. 07:20:08 the problem is that we're coding to eventually satisfy (what we perceive as) the TUNES HLL specs 07:20:37 like whch trivial details? 07:20:37 [NICK] JALH changed nick to: King-Of-The-Mul 07:21:17 btw, eihrul's currently implementing "pidgin" self/slate, not slate (yet) 07:21:18 like which bytecodes the VM has (iirc, you do plang on having a VM for now ?) 07:21:32 plang/plan 07:21:32 ok that's a pidgin question 07:21:50 eihrul's working that out as he codes 07:22:23 this sounds to be an extremely research-oriented project, with little to contribute from third parties who don't have enough time to spend on irc. 07:22:25 i honestly don't know or care about that aspect myself 07:22:25 only really going to have 2 or 3 "bytecodes" :) 07:22:59 eihrul: ok thanks for the bait, now what are they? :) 07:23:08 well... the first two are obvious: 07:23:10 stop, start and nop ? 07:23:11 lookup and apply 07:23:39 the third operation will inject an object directly onto the stack 07:23:43 as opposed to a lookup 07:23:46 that assumes exactly one MO in the initial implementation 07:24:17 [NICK] King-JALH changed nick to: JALH 07:24:19 how does 'apply' work ? 07:24:24 rmm, the operations will dispatch to the proper meta-objects 07:24:31 so really you'd have M lookups and N applies... but anyway 07:24:36 oic 07:25:03 water lets eihrul anser ghyll's question 07:25:07 Ghyll: sending a message is broken up into two parts... 07:25:27 the first part is using the selector to 'lookup' some object implementing the message from the object 07:25:39 the second part 'apply's that object to the receiver of the message 07:25:41 to activate it 07:26:08 s/from the object/from the receiver 07:26:14 where the apply part is essentially just a rewrite rule over the object space 07:26:43 (in most cases, the "pop" is implicit in the rewrite rule) 07:27:43 this is fairly abstract, I'm a bit more interested in where it all hits the metal. 07:28:22 i leave most all of that up to eihrul 07:28:33 it sends a message to the meta-object 07:28:43 to apply the object to the receiver 07:29:18 we're still walking around the porridge here.. 07:29:21 using whatever primitive message passing facilities provided by the system 07:29:31 or... indirecting through a meta-object 07:29:37 to change how that message itself is sent 07:30:33 could all of this be implemented somewhat simply in lisp, thinking of the messages as symbols, and the meta objects are symbol rewriting rules ? 07:30:46 are/as 07:31:06 the first implementations were in lisp :) 07:31:39 now you use the self code as the basis ? 07:32:07 define "use as basis"? :) 07:32:42 ghyll: no 07:32:43 am i implementing it in self? no 07:33:02 am i making a set of primitive objects that are very self-like to bootstrap stuff? yes :) 07:33:42 do you use the self-implementation for anything ? 07:33:53 no 07:34:00 i'm using C++ 07:34:04 so in fact, i reuse very little :) 07:34:04 so all is written from pure scratch ? 07:34:20 yes 07:35:43 ghyll: you could probably cook up a new lisp implementation pretty quickly if you want 07:36:02 water: I've contemplated doing that more than once. 07:36:38 probably with a lisp implementation... 07:36:43 is you lug around the rest of lisp with it 07:36:48 i'm actually considering writing it in squeak since a new prototype-based object system got released for it 07:37:09 [NICK] JALH changed nick to: Loer-JALH 07:37:40 eihrul: can you rephrase ? 07:37:58 Ghyll: rmm, the implementation won't run without the lisp :) 07:38:11 it is easier to distribute if it is a simple binary 07:39:03 [NICK] Lord-JALH changed nick to: King-JALH 07:39:04 eihrul: that's very true. 07:40:28 expecting everyone to have CMUCL or similar so they can play with it is a bit much 07:41:29 eihrul: I know that to be an obstacle from experience. 07:42:44 [NICK] King-JALH changed nick to: Cracker 07:44:15 ghyll: so do you have questions about things mentioned in slate docs that are online, such as they are? 07:46:46 and do you know about the few things that were added to http://diktuon.arrow.cx about slate? 07:46:49 water: yes. what is left for you to define before you can write examples ? 07:47:08 [NICK] Cracker changed nick to: JALH 07:47:14 mostly the things for literals and meta-objects 07:47:29 damn it, diktuon's down 07:47:30 water: last time I checked (last week), slate-home and http://diktuon.arrow.cx were not in sync, with the latter lacking a good many things. 07:47:57 water: I'd advise you to keep the docs on one place, to keep down the confusion. 07:48:24 yeah well the old stuff on tunes is the out-of-date stuff 07:48:44 diktuon's been rather unreliable 07:49:53 perhaps you should stop referring to it, then ? (if all has been moved to diktoun anyway) 07:50:18 i can't because diktuon is often down 07:50:54 and diktuon can't generate a set of static pages yet 07:51:33 (ones that will be available when diktuon isn't) 07:52:27 if no one minds, i am afk for awhile... 07:54:01 [QUIT] JALH quit: Ping timeout for JALH[user38-180.jakinternet.co.uk] 07:54:20 have you tried writing the docs in a structured document system ? 07:54:29 such as? 07:55:13 if you count klyx, then the answer is yes 07:55:25 but otherwise, no 07:57:06 lyx, framemaker, conglomerate, docbook 07:57:21 i've only used lyx 07:57:43 keep in mind, i don't know anyone who uses serious software or programs seriously 07:58:03 irl i mean of course 07:58:12 so you don't have anybody to ask about those programs.. 07:58:23 exactly 07:58:31 I can see that to be an obstacle. 07:58:34 let alone help configure my linux installation 07:58:49 are you so lofty you don't do that yourself ? 07:59:06 actually, i do know one fellow, but he works as much as i do (lead sysadmin for an isp) 07:59:17 heh 07:59:32 of course not, but i only have so much of an attention span 07:59:52 well, there's that (and time) 08:03:53 keep in mind that the requirements for calling something slate are fairly few 08:08:16 I'm not sure I can keep that in mind for too long. It's getting crowded just now :/ 08:08:31 eh? 08:09:01 I'm trying to compile some WinCE programs for WinCE on linux. 08:09:10 hcf joined #tunes 08:09:16 oh 08:09:17 hey hcf 08:09:19 hey 08:09:51 hcf: what have you been up to, being gone for so long, if i might ask? 08:10:24 been sick, busy, sick of irc 08:10:31 ok 08:10:32 the last item is waning 08:10:56 well i might not have any time for it at all, soom 08:10:59 soon, even 08:11:12 yeah, saw the 40days thing 08:11:27 i'm trying to catch w/ the logs 08:11:34 i should probably move my communications efforts back to the mailing lists 08:12:22 do u have useful irc sessions w/ anyone besides eihrul of late? 08:12:50 no 08:13:14 but i've never received email from eihrul, either 08:14:35 do u check the logs? i'v given a few urls on the past few days 08:14:58 i haven't checked today 08:16:12 i added to abi: var'aq, ciao, and sugar 08:16:53 are there any "rules" for here u want upkept while ur not here? 08:17:06 i saw sugar earlier 08:17:24 i'v noticed some ppl talkin forth and being ushered to #forth, which i agree w/ 08:17:34 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o water 08:17:40 [MODE] water set mode: +o hcf 08:17:43 [MODE] water set mode: -o water 08:17:47 [MODE] hcf set mode: -o hcf 08:17:49 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o hcf 08:18:00 [MODE] hcf set mode: -o hcf 08:18:13 dunno 08:18:29 people seem to lurk here just because Fare and i show up 08:19:13 no. that's not why we lurk here. 08:19:29 btw the logs don't reflect who's here and who's not because it munges quit's and nick-change's and such 08:19:45 water: yeah i noticed some of that 08:19:49 ghyll: oh? 08:20:21 well we definitely don't discuss forth or lisp very much 08:20:30 water: we lurk here because we want to help out on tunes, but as intelligent workers, not as drones, nor as chief architects. 08:21:17 ok 08:22:58 water: so we're kinda hoping that you guys'll throw us a bone in the way of documentation now and then 08:23:33 dude you have no idea how much friggin' research i'm doing on this to make sure you don't have to listen to formal-babble 08:27:18 i guess i should give you a quick overview of what we want to do with quoting and literals 08:27:46 basiccally, quoting in every programming language is lame, even in lisp 08:28:15 it's a statically defined function or set of functions that has a really limited domain 08:28:44 but it works and it's necessary, and the better mechanisms that programmers get for doing it, the better they can meta-program 08:28:53 so... 08:29:44 where i'm going with the idea is that quoting in slate (the basis of the lookup mechanism, to be precise) should be a generically open and extensible framework 08:30:21 and that we want to remove inherent dependence on a single type (like strings and their variants) in order to have proper quoting 08:31:27 i'm basically considering ways to unquote anything, for example 08:31:50 er... *unquote* *anything* 08:32:13 so one could use any slate object as the proper name for looking up any other object 08:32:44 considered of course at the level of semantics of all identifiers 08:32:51 (uniqueness) 08:34:58 but this of course is not necessary for first implementations 08:35:14 which is why i am working in parallel with any implementation efforts 08:37:14 hm did i lose everybody? 08:38:28 i'll take that as a "yes" 08:38:34 semi 08:38:39 add a 'pidgin' factoid to abi, plz 08:39:41 done, but it doesn't have a url yet 08:52:12 abi: Object-based PLs is at http://www-alt.pasteur.fr/~letondal/object-based.html 08:57:44 smklsmkl joined #tunes 09:03:56 [QUIT] smklsmkl quit: bbl 09:12:48 Comparing CLOS, C++, and Java @ http://world.std.com/~mydy/meta 09:18:32 [QUIT] hcf quit: Ping timeout for hcf[207-172-225-8.s8.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com] 09:20:24 [QUIT] Tgazainte quit: So I bit him? 09:20:27 hcf joined #tunes 09:42:56 abi: EOOPS is Emacs-lisp Object-Oriented Programming System at http://anny.kinjo-u.ac.jp/~houser/eoops/Welcome.html 09:42:57 abi: LLPE is Literate Lisp Programming Environment at http://anny.kinjo-u.ac.jp/~houser/llpe/Welcome.html 09:42:59 abi: DEM is Data/Event Modeling, a terse language for writing modular programs at http://anny.kinjo-u.ac.jp/~houser/dem/dem.htm 09:51:30 [QUIT] MysticOne quit: I'm outta here! 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