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17:27:59 I'm still trying to write that damn business plan 17:28:04 ok 17:28:31 i'm having similar problems coming up with a workable outline for slate and arrow docs 17:29:36 hm Lynn Maxson is an idiot 17:30:03 or at the very least as hard-headed as an old programmer can be 17:30:29 Fare admits being a loong way behind in reading the list 17:30:49 that's not a big deal 17:31:35 i'm developing the squeak code for arrow lately, both for Arrow and Slate research & development 17:31:54 it goes pretty slowly, but i want to make sure i get it right the first time 17:35:15 water: good 17:35:37 one thing i should mention, though, is that i know what OO patterns to use now 17:35:57 btw i have an interesting book.... 17:36:21 "a functional pattern system for object-oriented design" 17:36:41 c1999 17:37:11 it cites and uses all the major papers in the theory of functional and OO programming for the last two decades 17:37:50 i looked through the glossary today, and found that i was very familiar with over 95% of the papers :) 17:38:49 unfortunately, the author seems relatively unaware of the linearity issue in research 17:39:05 oh? have you documented your patterns? 17:39:09 but the issues are addressed just the same 17:39:21 not yet 17:39:49 but they're fairly concrete... the current Arrows code on tunes.org shows the beginnings of the pattern implementation 17:39:53 [QUIT] smoke quit: Ping timeout for smoke[15dyn28.delft.casema.net] 17:40:09 since i implemented CarGraph and CdrGraph using it 17:43:53 water does some house-chores 17:43:59 house-chores? 17:45:04 various things with furniture 17:56:46 ok i'll call it what it is... redecorating :) 17:57:59 smoke joined #tunes 18:04:29 redecorating? a bad habit of MacIntosh users. 18:05:55 Heh 18:16:47 hm the computer must move 18:17:43 bbl folks 18:23:18 lmaxson joined #tunes 18:26:53 lmaxson left #tunes 18:32:35 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o Fare 18:38:07 [QUIT] ink quit: Read error to ink[1Cust140.tnt20.sfo3.da.uu.net]: Connection reset by peer 18:39:27 [QUIT] Fare quit: Leaving 18:45:16 water joined #tunes 18:45:32 damn he's gone 18:45:39 fare? 18:45:46 yes 18:47:10 eihrul still wonders how lmaxson manages to keep dodging simple questions like how to rank and select "better" programs. 18:47:21 heh 18:47:46 because he's not very bright, and he's got concept fusion like crazy 18:47:52 "Well, theory has never done any one person any good and through an exhaustive true/false testing process that is simple!" 18:48:04 did i get the stereotype down? :) 18:48:16 yes that was quite accurate :) 18:48:22 eihrul: was that generated by a script? 18:48:29 lol 18:48:40 you would think so :) 19:09:59 lar1 joined #tunes 19:17:17 Have salt in there, and laid it up with pride he fall into the print of the pattern, inaccessible input files, or other PostScript operators which expect FILE to be put to death: for whosoever hath, to him out of Israel: of the inet6_apps library. 19:17:49 (at least as coherent as #linpeople..) 19:23:32 heh 19:53:31 [QUIT] td quit: Ping timeout for td[ilm25-51-108.ec.rr.com] 19:53:33 td joined #tunes 19:53:37 [QUIT] td quit: Read error to td[24.25.51.108]: EOF from client 20:05:30 so 20:05:47 is anyone still listening? 20:08:39 maybe 20:08:48 hm 20:10:42 well, i'm gonna read more of fpsood and then code some more of the arrow stuff 20:16:03 oh good, in-depth discussion of meta-classes and associated weirdness is getting discussed on the squeak list 20:44:42 gresco joined #tunes 20:45:46 gresco left #tunes 21:06:56 Kyle_L joined #tunes 21:07:07 hey kyle 21:07:16 hey 22:44:47 [QUIT] ink quit: Read error to ink[1Cust50.tnt26.sfo3.da.uu.net]: Connection reset by peer 23:12:43 Hardcore joined #tunes 23:12:47 Hardcore left #tunes 23:19:28 [QUIT] I440r quit: [x]chat 23:20:05 I440r joined #tunes 23:20:58 [QUIT] XeF4 quit: Ping timeout for XeF4[supernova.sevenheavens.com] 23:45:35 [QUIT] ink quit: Read error to ink[1Cust50.tnt26.sfo3.da.uu.net]: No route to host 23:56:18 [QUIT] I440r quit: [x]chat 23:56:19 I440r joined #tunes 01:34:55 [QUIT] air quit: http://www.qzx.com/ :: sleep